Sunday, May 07, 2006

The Jews are starting to see through the GOP

That is, the Jewish machers (big-shots), who believe that we needed to kowtow to the right wing becuase they were "good for Israel." That was debatable from the beginning, but now, since the GOP and the wingnuts are brazenly trying to use the "good for Israel" meme to lauch a second ill-advised crazy war. it's totally obvious that the right wing (whether American or Israeli) is not only bad for Israel, it's bad for American Jews:

Republican chairman booed at AJCommittee event

The chairman of the Republican Party was booed at an American Jewish Committee event over comments on Iraq.

Ken Mehlman, who is Jewish, said Iraq posed less of a challenge now than under Saddam Hussein.

Mehlman was otherwise politely received when he spoke Tuesday at the AJCommittee’s 100th anniversary celebrations in Washington, and he got warm applause when he said the Bush administration would not tolerate an Iranian nuclear bomb and always would stand by Israel.

Mehlman's shameless pander was obvious. Bust so was the smackdown:

The room burst into applause, however, when AJCommittee board member Edith Everett asked Mehlman to “take a message” to President Bush to stop linking Israel and Iran.

“It does not help Israel and it does not help American Jews to appear to be stimulators of any action against Iran,” Everett said.

She added that “it’s easy to understand why Iran is not worried about us” because Iraq is consuming so many U.S. resources.

Mehlman replied by acknowledging that Iraq was a “challenge,” but claimed it’s “less of a challenge than when Saddam Hussein was in power.”

The room filled with boos and hisses.

My comments:

This is the sort of thing (the fact that ruling party big-shots feel the need to pander, and that the Jewish machers warmly accept such pandering) that makes people think that the "Israel Lobby" or even "The Jooz" control Washington and don't allow for rational discourse about Middle East issues. I'm glad to see at least this first attempt at a mild smackdown. BTW, I can't see how Iran having a few primitive atomic bombs, or even a bunch of more sophisticated ones, is any more and exisential threat to Israel than China having the bomb was an exisential threat to the US in the 1970's. So pairing the Iranian bomb problem with "standing by Israel" was such an obvious pander that it was quickly shot down by the intended audience.

It would have been nice if Ms. Everett could have said with a straight face that American Jewish organizations, **were NOT** "stimulating action against Iran. Unfortunately, a lot of the junk mail I've been getting from these same Jewish organizations (I don't think the AJCommittee was one of them) indicates that the Jewish organizations are getting the vapors (in public, at least) over Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's rantings, which certainly doesn't help calm things down. I wonder who in the American Jewish Establishment is setting up this idiotic Party Line.

Personally, I think Mahmoud's rantings are calculated, designed to goad either the US or Israel into attacking him, the better to get his foes involved in a serious quagmire. This is a tactic, pioneered by the boxer Mohammad Ali, called "Rope-a-Dope." Anyway, Mahmoud is not the sole source of power in Iran, I doubt that Iran is going to try to liquidate Israel any time soon, and using the Bomb to do so would only result in Iran becoming a radioactive slag heap. So everyone shouldn't lose sleep over Mahmoud. Now, Dubya, on the other hand, it's OK to lose sleep over him. I know I do.

I also would like to point out the obvious dangers to the American Jewish community if the general American public ever gets the idea that "the Jews" pushed Bush into an Iran quagmire that is only doomed to fail and may signal the end of the United States as a world power. This would be expecially ironic, considering that most American Jews oppose both the Iraq war and an Iranian adventure. Heck, even the Israelis think Bush and his neocon crew are nuts. But I shudder to think how Bush and Rove will lash out and blame others when this goes sour. Better to be on record right from the start as opposing this idiocy.



9 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Iran quagmire that is only doomed to fail and may signal the end of the United States as a world power.

You're not kidding. Once we lose control of the oil, the white middle class won't be able to keep running farther and farther into the suburbs/ Without gasoline and the ability for "white flight," they'll have to live in aprtments, take the bus, and send their kids to school witht eh schvartzers. When that happens, I predict that all hell will break loose.

12:07 PM  
Blogger DAG said...

UH...ever think that US connects Iran with Israel BECAUSE Iran has said that Israel would be their first target after a US lead attack?

And Iran is much more dangerous than the Russians or the Chinese ever were. Neither of those nations would sacrafice their entire country to nuke Israel. Iran would invite the chance and consider it a great trade.

Dag

4:31 PM  
Blogger Classmate-Wearing-Yarmulka said...

"If one day ... Of course, that is very important. If one day, the Islamic world is also equipped with weapons like those that Israel possesses now, then the imperialists' strategy will reach a standstill because the use of even one nuclear bomb inside Israel will destroy everything. However, it will only harm the Islamic world. It is not irrational to contemplate such an eventuality."

Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, former President of Iran

5:13 PM  
Blogger Conservative Apikoris said...

UH...ever think that US connects Iran with Israel BECAUSE Iran has said that Israel would be their first target after a US lead attack?

Well, then by that logic, the best way to protect Israel is for the US do avoid making war on Iran.

5:55 PM  
Blogger Conservative Apikoris said...

"If one day ... Of course, that is very important. If one day, the Islamic world is also equipped with weapons like those that Israel possesses now, then the imperialists' strategy will reach a standstill because the use of even one nuclear bomb inside Israel will destroy everything. However, it will only harm the Islamic world. It is not irrational to contemplate such an eventuality."

Well, he's just stating a "Mutually-Assured Desturction" scenario, there's nothing in the quote that implies that the Iranians would destroy Israel out of the blue. Perhpas the idea is that a nuclear Iran would make it harder for the Israelis to steal Arab land otherwise push Muslims around.

So maybe an Iranian bomb wouldn't be such a bad thing, after all.

6:02 PM  
Blogger Conservative Apikoris said...

And Iran is much more dangerous than the Russians or the Chinese ever were. Neither of those nations would sacrafice their entire country to nuke Israel. Iran would invite the chance and consider it a great trade.

Sure. mr Big-shot Mid-East/Russia/China expert, tell me your sources for that kind of ignorant overgeneralization. By the way, I remeber back when China got the bomb everybody was freaking out, becuase, unlike the "rational" Russians, the crazy sland-eyed Yellow Peril whose culture has no respect for human life would risk it all for no good reason. Even Nixon saw that was BS, and today, China did not only not nuke us, they are a world oiwer who is going to dominate us using the conventional methods that all world powers use.

But Iran? Even with the bomb, Iran is a nothing country is a military power. It's not worth an American or even an Israeli attack, and the Israelis know it. The problem is, do the Americans?

6:07 PM  
Blogger DAG said...

Apikoras, i find it disturbing that you dont even listen to what the players in the world stage are saying.,...the leaders of the Islamic world have said that they would welcome martydom, even of an entire "nation"...and you might be right about US not attacking Iran IF Israel was only country threatned..but they are not..entire world is threatned

8:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Food for thought...

In April, the American Jewish Committee (AJC) ran full-page ads in the New York Times, Financial Times, International Herald Tribune and New York Sun instigating action against Iran.
The ad's posed the following questions:
Can anyone within range of Iran’s missiles feel safe? Suppose Iran one day gives nuclear devices to terrorists. Could anyone anywhere feel safe?

You can view them on the AJC website..http://www.ajc.org/atf/cf/{42D75369-D582-4380-8395-D25925B85EAF}/AJC_IRAN_04042006_AD.PDF

It seems then a little funny that the comments made during the anniversary dinner were an accurate depiction of the AJC intentions to divorce itself and Israel from the Iranian threat..

12:40 AM  
Anonymous Antiquated Tory said...

It was suggested to me by a friend the other week that Israel would not retaliate against an Iranian atomic attack with one of its own bombs because of the 2000 or so Jews still living in Tehran. Of course, this wouldn't stop the US, etc, etc, but I thought I would throw his thought out there. As you will see below, I am less concerned about the Iranian threat than he is.

Some of the other readers here might want to consider talking to some Iranians, even expats. A willingness to see their own millenia-old nation wiped out and their families vapourised if only they could take the hated Israelis with them is, to put it mildly, not a majority view. I don't think it even qualifies as a minority view. In fact, I don't think you could find enough people thinking this way to form a minyan.
During the Iran/Iraq War, the Iranian Ministry of Defence sent condolence letters which began "Congratulations! Your son is a martyr..." I'm told that these days, if the Ministry sent out such letters they'd have angry mobs trying to burn their building down. Post-revolutionary fervour has, in the way of post-revolutionary fervours, burnt itself out.
President Ahmadinejad won an election in which over 75% of the electorate could not be bothered to vote. An additional 10% did not vote for him. Now he and his former Revolutionary Guard whackjob core supporters are trying to fire up some kind of enthusiasm by blaring the Israeli/American Threat trumpets. (Never mind when you're going to have a job, we're getting the Bomb!) The clergy, not stupid men, are looking at these jokers and perhaps starting to wish they had not stomped so hard on the reformists.

9:17 AM  

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